Having been exposed to Measles as a child, I was curious as to whether or not one could get Measles again.
A bit of research tells me that it's rare for a second round but, can happen. Measles was considered to be wiped out/eliminated from the US population quite a while back. But now it's back. The vast majority being in unvaccinated people. Originally, the outbreak hit Texas primarily in the Mennonite community but it's now spreading across the country. Measles has already taken a life and is spreading.
I fully realize that some don't like the idea of vaccinations but, IMHO anyone not getting their child the MMR vaccination is just asking for trouble. If your kids or grandkids have not been immunized, do your best to influence their parents/caregivers to get it done. If you haven't been vaccinated, then you've got no one to blame but yourself. Just don't share it.
Although I have no proof, I suspect our illegal alien population influx has helped re-introduce Measles back to the US population. What else could be coming to us.
Originally posted by blackrams: Having been exposed to Measles as a child, I was curious as to whether or not one could get Measles again.
I do not know. I hear tell that "shingles" is a result of the "chicken pox " vaccine later in life. I hear tell the there is a shot for that, and it's not tequila, .
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Originally posted by blackrams: Originally, the outbreak hit Texas primarily in the Mennonite community but it's now spreading across the country. Measles has already taken a life and is spreading.
Mennonites. Interesting culture, religious culture. I once worked in a Mennonite community.
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Originally posted by blackrams: Although I have no proof, I suspect our illegal alien population influx has helped re-introduce Measles back to the US population. What else could be coming to us.
My understanding is that babies till ? age can not be safely vaccinated. There was a case of Measles in Austin, TX, of which was contracted from an overseas visit.
The influx of undocumented and unscreened aliens couldn't possibly have any bearing on the uptick of previously eradicated infectious diseases in this country.
Originally posted by cliffw: ... I hear tell that "shingles" is a result of the "chicken pox " vaccine later in life. I hear tell the there is a shot for that, and it's not tequila,
First time I've heard that.
The story I heard is that shingles is a result of a previous chicken pox infection. Not the vaccine. Although I suppose it could be possible. Or not.
I've had the shingles vaccine. It's two shots, at least at my doctor's office. The second one left me feeling achy for a day or so, but nothing huge. I've known a few people who have had shingles. Even a minor case is pretty nasty.
I got the MMR vaccines and polio vaccines as a small child.
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My understanding of Measles is that the vaccine (MMR) is given to young children sometime around or after the child's first birthday normally. That vaccine does not introduce Measles, Mumps or Rubella to the child but reinforces the child's health system to fight those diseases.
But, Chicken Pox leaves a dormant virus in the human body after it's recovered from that can or does leave the carrier vulnerable to getting Shingles later in life under certain conditions. This was explained to me by my physician both times I got Shingles. I was advised that Stress was considered to be a major reason Shingles is caused. That's about all I can say I have been told. I got the old shingles shot after my first round of Shingles but after the second round got another two vaccinations of the new improved version. I don't remember how having Chicken Pox felt but, clearly remember Shingles, both times it was a very painful experience that I don't wish to repeat.
I had a very mild case of shingles in November of 2023.
A small line of blisters on my posterior and thigh.
Itched like crazy and I didn't feel like normal. Went to the doctor, took the pills and it cleared up. No vaccine.
I didn't get chicken pox until I was a teenager, and I had a doozy of a case, covered EVERYWHERE and ran an extremely high fever. I don't know if that has any bearing on my shingles experience or not.
If you think it's bad withmeasels (because more and more parents opt NOT to Vac their rugrats with MMR, just wait until smallpox re-emerges from it's natural host and hits the X-Y- gens that never got smallpox vaccs or many boomers that the smallpox vaccine effect is no longer viable for due to the decades passed...
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March 7 - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is planning a large study into potential connections between vaccines and autism, two sources familiar with the matter told Reuters, despite extensive scientific research that has disproven or failed to find evidence of such links. The CDC's move comes amid one of the largest measles outbreaks the U.S. has seen in the past decade, with more than 200 cases and two deaths in Texas and New Mexico. The outbreak has been fueled by declining vaccination rates in parts of the United States where parents have been falsely persuaded that such shots do more harm than good.
U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr, whose role includes authority over the CDC, has long sowed doubt over the safety of the combined vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella (MMR). In a cabinet meeting last week, Kennedy initially downplayed news that a school-aged child had died of measles in Texas, the first such death in a decade, calling such outbreaks ordinary and failing to mention the role of vaccination to prevent measles. Last weekend Kennedy published an opinion piece on Fox News that promoted the role of vaccination, but also told parents vaccination was a personal choice and urged them to consult with their physician.
t is unclear whether Kennedy is involved in the planned CDC study or how it would be carried out. He did not respond to a request for comment. HHS and CDC cited what they described as skyrocketing autism rates in a joint statement on Friday. "CDC will leave no stone unturned in its mission to figure out what exactly is happening," the statement said. "The American people expect high quality research and transparency and that is what CDC is delivering." President Donald Trump's nominee for CDC director, Dr. Dave Weldon, is set for a U.S. Senate committee hearing next week. Some senators have expressed concerns over Weldon's views on vaccines. Weldon declined to comment. Dr. Wilbur Chen, a professor at the University of Maryland School of Medicine and former member of the CDC's vaccine advisory panel, said the existence of such a study, conducted by the federal government, is itself enough to raise doubts about vaccines among some in the general public. "It sends the signal that there is something there that is worth investigating, so that means there must be something going on between vaccines and autism," Chen said. Autism diagnoses in the United States have increased significantly since 2000, intensifying public concern. Many researchers attribute the rise in diagnoses to more widespread screening and the inclusion of a broader range of behaviors to describe the condition. But some public figures have popularized the idea that vaccines are to blame, an idea stemming from a since-debunked study from British researcher Andrew Wakefield in the late 1990s that connected a rise in autism diagnoses with widespread use of the MMR shot. The causes of autism are unclear. No rigorous studies have found links between autism and vaccines or medications, or their components such as thimerosal or formaldehyde. There is widespread speculation among scientists that its neurological characteristics may develop in utero, when the fetal brain is being wired. Studies have linked autism to maternal factors in pregnancy, and some research suggests a link to birth complications and timing. Trump, in an address to Congress this week, cited the rise in autism among children. "So, we're going to find out what it is, and there’s nobody better than Bobby and all of the people that are working with you,” Trump said, referring to Kennedy. The White House had no immediate comment on the planned CDC study. Kennedy’s anti-vaccine views have drawn concern among some Republicans. During Kennedy’s confirmation hearing Senator Bill Cassidy, a Louisiana Republican and physician, suggested that the nominee disavow any links between vaccines and autism. Kennedy denied that he was anti-vaccine, but did not acknowledge that such a link had been debunked. This week Cassidy questioned Trump’s nominee to lead the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, over his stance on investigating a potential link between autism and childhood vaccinations. "I don't generally believe there is a link, based on my reading of the literature," Bhattacharya said. "But we do have a sharp rise in autism rates, and I don't think any scientist really knows the cause of it. I would support a broad scientific agenda based on data to get an answer to that."
I'm not qualified to offer an opinion, not even a SWAG but, if there a link between autism and vaccinations it should be looked into. I don't necessarily believe there is a solid link but, as I said, I'm not qualified to say. Looking forward to this study's results being released. It's my opinion that lots of things contribute to our well being and detriment although they may not have a direct effect or be the cause of something like autism but, could be a contributing reason. I did spend a few nights at a Holiday Inn a while back but, that effect may have worn off.
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I'm not qualified to offer an opinion, not even a SWAG but, if there a link between autism and vaccinations it should be looked into. I don't necessarily believe there is a solid link but, as I said, I'm not qualified to say. Looking forward to this study's results being released. ...
I read a link that said the CDC is going to investigate this, which I think is a good idea. Maybe. I'll have a look, and will post the link if I can find it.
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