Originally posted by West Coast Fiero: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Smoooooth GT: [B2. Are you making these comment's because your an associate of West Coast Fiero?? I think so...
Please do not attemp to associate Sleeper with us regarding his comments, they are his alone.
Yet another Fiero that went to the big wrecking yard in the sky, my condolences to you Mr. Doug Esposito
Ohh I see ... OK.. I'll retract my comment about you and Sleeper.... As far as the Mr. Doug E's thread... Whay would you do that to yourself?? Be cool and I'll see you in ElPaso..??
------------------ "AKA.. Kiwi Strawberry Man Smoothy" SmoothFieroGT@Yahoo.com 4.9L V/8....In Progress!!
Originally posted by Smoooooth GT: Ohh I see ... OK.. I'll retract my comment about you and Sleeper.... As far as the Mr. Doug E's thread... Whay would you do that to yourself?? Be cool and I'll see you in ElPaso..??
Cool deal - yeah, I need to come down there and harass you instead man, Im tired of seeing the sig, I want to see the SmoooothGT in real life. If it takes harassment from me to get you to finish that beast then I'm all over it
Did you ever get that whole front fascia incident resolved after that accident?
Originally posted by JEDI: Everytime I begin to think about buying something from the people of West Coast Fiero, they do something like this...
DON'T YOU GET IT?! YOU LOOSE BUISINESS WHEN YOU ACT LIKE THIS!!!!
If you don't like the fact that say things without holding back, put all my cards down on the table, and call everything like it is............ then don't buy from us I'm sure there is a nice ( and I use the term loosely ) V-8 kit out there just for you
------------------ ( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor bastard ) :) Eric Nelson Technician, West Coast Fiero 310-305-4111
Originally posted by West Coast Fiero: If you don't like the fact that say things without holding back, put all my cards down on the table, and call everything like it is............ then don't buy from us I'm sure there is a nice ( and I use the term loosely ) V-8 kit out there just for you
The facts you put on the table are not facts. They are myths. Just look at the Fino thread. You put BS on the table and Archie turned around and made you eat it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Your cards on the table? Call everything like it is? Please! He and NIFE "called" your on your "hand" and all you had were jokers! Your guys are a joke! Everyday you post on here with more crap like this you dig yourselves deeper and deeper into the rut that your in now.
You bet there is a nice, reliable, safe, and time tested V8 kit for me, and it's made by Archie. Archie's reputation is second to no one. YOU INCLUDED! Maybe you don't realize this but the people here respect him. And maybe you also don't realize that his kit, the one you claim won't work well, DOES work well. In fact, in Daytona Archie had a customer with a Black GT with a 406 V8 in it RUNNING FINE! After YEARS of abuse! How is that for the quality of his work? Where are your examples?! Have you shipped 1000 of your kits yet? How many of your cars did you have in Daytona? Put up or shut up, and by your record, I would choose the latter.
If you want to tell it like it is, go stand in front of a mirror and repeat this mantra "I should be improving my own product instead of worrying about what Archie is doing. I should focus on how to get potential customers to respect me, instead of trying to insult them. I should not go on PFF and try insult one of it's most respected members."
Say that to yourself over and over and over again until it FINALLY SINKS IN! Do you know how much money you have lost because of your actions?
Look, like most of the people when they get on the net, you are probably nicer in person. BUT DROP THE ATTITUDE WHILE ONLINE! It's pathetic. It's childish. And it makes you LOOSE BUISNESS! Did anyone at WCF actually attend a school of business? Rule number one: DONT P!SS OFF YOUR CUSTOMERS!
And remember, you guys sell tons of parts, not just engine swaps. But by your attitude online, no one would know it. So, you are loosing EVEN MORE SALES because no one will bother buying parts from you either!
This thread has gone to 3 pages in length now, and you guys are the only ones who have taken the side of wiccantoy. Give it up. Grow up. Get into the REAL WORLD. You’re not in the majority here. You’re in the minority. People like Archie. He is willing to help them. You guys are all about promoting yourselves, and trashing other’s hard work. Or at least that is the perception you’re giving off.
Want to know what I think of when I think of WCF...and note this only from your behavior in the forum...
That is what I imagine when I see you guys...
Look. You guys need to stop worrying about Archie’s stuff, and start minding your own BUISINESS!
[This message has been edited by JEDI (edited 06-11-2002).]
Eric - I don't know you from Adam. I was speaking in defense of a friend, acqaintance or whatever you want to call him. Suddenly you attack ME out of the blue - geez - I agree with the previous post - take some business courses. No matter what products you guys offer, you won't be selling any to me. If you are simply a disgruntled Fiero tech - maybe the company you work for had better fire you before you drive it out of business.
Vic
BTW - I'd thought about making the drive to Calfornia to meet some people a little closer to me than the midwest. Right now though, I'm thinking I'd better save my vacation time and gas money for The Dells next year - if you are any representative of the people I'd meet.
Originally posted by MaxDaemon: Eric - I don't know you from Adam. I was speaking in defense of a friend, acqaintance or whatever you want to call him. Suddenly you attack ME out of the blue - geez - I agree with the previous post - take some business courses. No matter what products you guys offer, you won't be selling any to me. If you are simply a disgruntled Fiero tech - maybe the company you work for had better fire you before you drive it out of business.
Vic
BTW - I'd thought about making the drive to Calfornia to meet some people a little closer to me than the midwest. Right now though, I'm thinking I'd better save my vacation time and gas money for The Dells next year - if you are any representative of the people I'd meet.
you lost me on this, who is Adam? and when did I disagree with you?
Originally posted by MaxDaemon: BTW - I'd thought about making the drive to Calfornia to meet some people a little closer to me than the midwest. Right now though, I'm thinking I'd better save my vacation time and gas money for The Dells next year - if you are any representative of the people I'd meet.
This is it. This is what they are like in person as well. Don't waste your money on a trip out there like we did.
Rob D.
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Modified 2.8 (Soon to be a 383 V8 ) 2.5" Drop 11" Brakes 17" Revolutions RCC Coilover Suspension
Originally posted by West Coast Fiero: If you don't like the fact that say things without holding back, put all my cards down on the table, and call everything like it is............ then don't buy from us I'm sure there is a nice ( and I use the term loosely ) V-8 kit out there just for you
Eric, don't you EVER learn? WOW! Seems like 85-95 % of your posts on this forum are useless and just posted to start $hit? Do you guys like mud on the face? Good for the complexion maybe, but not for business. I'll be the first one to say that I have bought product from you, and even recently, have gotten better then ever service. I think to myself " Looks like they finally are getting their $hit together" then I run into a thread like this. What gives?? You guys have some nice stuff and I'll say that there is even some useful knowledge there as well but this kind of $hit really makes you look ignorant. You guys are ALWAYS waiting on the opportunity to bash Archie. Why? Even when your "TRYING" to be civilized you have to throw in the "and I use the term loosely" bit. I have Archie’s kit and none of the $hit you spread is true. Why do you do it? For publicity? Oh well.
Rob D.
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Modified 2.8 (Soon to be a 383 V8 ) 2.5" Drop 11" Brakes 17" Revolutions RCC Coilover Suspension
Originally posted by West Coast Fiero: You seemed to have enjoyed yourself while you were out here? Well - you sure fooled me
We WOULD have enjoyed our trip were the circumstances different. Eric, you say this as if nothing happened during our trip. Are you loosing it? Do we need to dig up old news? Nah, not worth it.
Rob D.
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Modified 2.8 (Soon to be a 383 V8 ) 2.5" Drop 11" Brakes 17" Revolutions RCC Coilover Suspension
Originally posted by wiccantoy: did anyone see v8 archies yellow fiero at carlisle? i was such a fan of this mans work untill i saw that piece of crap.
Then you say:
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i have no problem with the car it can have problems .
Why don't you tell us how you really feel? So far you're turned over faster than a ten dollar hooker.
Face facts: Archie IS the man when it comes to V8 installs. There is NONE better. When I first met him I too was "put off" by his arrogance, but then I realized one very important thing - HE'S RIGHT. He has an air about him because he has suceeded in doing something SO WELL that no one else can hold a candle to him. Wouldn't you get tired of questions and finger pointing if you had THE best conversion kit on the face of the planet? I know I would.
So you say that you want a trailer queen to represent your business? That's fine by you, but Archie wants a workhorse - something that he can jump in and DRIVE (and I mean hard driving!) - not a car that he has to babysit from people touching it all day long. How many people can say that they saw Archie actually sitting by his car? None.
Originally posted by West Coast Fiero: You seemed to have enjoyed yourself while you were out here? Well - you sure fooled me
Eric, c'mon - be real man. Put down the pipe and rethink that post ...
And Wiccantoy - as an FYI, Archie's got an 800 number, so your LD charges aren't an issue unless a phone in every home hasn't happened in your little town yet.
So, what's your URL where we can see some of these cars that you build? I'm sure that pics are online, right? I mean, if you're that proud of these cars you'd show them off. Here - I'll go first. My cars are on http://www.boomtastic.com
i love how the WCF haters mix me up with WCF when i have nothing to do with them except buying from them a couple times. the I.Q.'s are real f*ckin' high or they're too ready to start sh*t themselves.
This post is directed to "you know who". I saw Archies Stinger at Carlisle and while it may not be the perfect show car for me, I do admire the amount of work that went into creating it. You are certainly entited to your opinion but demeaning comments about people are uncalled for. If you dislike my Fiero or Archies Stinger that's perfectly fine. You can disagree with anything said here and it is your right to do so. However, name calling on a public forum does not ackomplish anything. In a civilized society, discussion and the exchange of opinions and ideas about things (not people), should be presented in such a way that it is not offensive. Let's keep the talk centered around engines, swaps,transmissions, hot rod mods. history and other vehicle related matters. After all we are all Fiero owners, aren't we?
Originally posted by Sleeper: i love how the WCF haters mix me up with WCF when i have nothing to do with them except buying from them a couple times. the I.Q.'s are real f*ckin' high or they're too ready to start sh*t themselves.
There you go showing off your intellect again. Hi looser, if you look at the last post you made, the only reason you made it was to stir up $hit . You crack me up looser, oh I mean sleeper.
Rob D.
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Modified 2.8 (Soon to be a 383 V8 ) 2.5" Drop 11" Brakes 17" Revolutions RCC Coilover Suspension
[This message has been edited by chester (edited 06-12-2002).]
Well im going to through my two cents into this fire. First of all after meeting Archie first hand at carlisile I must say for someone who went through what he went through he was quite pleasent to me and jnco. Adressing wiccantoy, I dont really care about you, say what you want about Archie's car, you can have your opinion, until you start making blatently stupid comments. After seeing Westcoast's actions and comments in regards to this thread I have decided that I will never buy from them I dont want to do buisness with childish people. I hope all of the other members in the fiero community will join me. I am quite dissapointed that wiccantoy has not a single picture to back up all the jive he spoke. I personally think he is jelous of Archies car. Finally, Wiccantoy keep your sladerous comments to your self. You bring a bad name to everyone in the Fiero community. Although I have not owned a fiero for long I must say you are the first "fiero owner" that has come across as an jerk. I put fiero owner in quotes because were not even sure you have one. So as stated before by countless respectable members "put up or shut up" because im sure you dont have a car that could touch archies! Even though I was going to be polite in this responce im going to have to offer you a wonderful idea, rid us and the fiero community of your stupidity and drive into the biggest of all trees you can find!!!
p.s stimpy that was one of the funnest pictures I have ever seen. I agree with it 100 percent, PFF doesn't need its reputation ruined by one idiot. As I stated before I have never met or heard of a jerk fiero owner until today. To all of you who I had the pleasure of meeting at the gilberts, I was impressed by your cars and more importatly your wonderful personalities.
Originally posted by Oreif: Hey, Thanks for showing us your IQ. You must be proud that you made it [b]up to the double-digit's. At this rate you should surpass a gerbil soon.
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Though I must say, I do envy the Fiero Community of the midwest, and east.
Best! Ben
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Originally posted by chester: This is it. This is what they are like in person as well. Don't waste your money on a trip out there like we did.
Rob D.
------------------ Ben Cannon 88 Formula, T-top, Metalic Red. (2:13.138 at Sears Point) "Every Man Dies, not every man really Lives" 88 Formula, Northstar, Silver, In-Progreess. -Mel Gibson, "Braveheart"
So anyway, there I was out in the middle of the desert at this little rsturant that had a sign above the cook are that said " This isnt Burger King, You dont get it your way!" And they mean it to, we all got the SAME burger and not what we ordered. Hehhe Good food though.
Oh yeah, back to this thread. Who has the pop-corn?
Originally posted by Sleeper: i love how the WCF haters mix me up with WCF when i have nothing to do with them except buying from them a couple times. the I.Q.'s are real f*ckin' high or they're too ready to start sh*t themselves.
Sleeper, Hey If you can read(you can right?? :rolleyes Then you would have seen where I retracted my comment's... What's your deal?? You just think that your HOT SH!T... Is that it?? I think that you should come up to the (El Paso get together) and let's go line to line.. Hello...??? Think before you type... I was through with this "SLANDER THREAD" That you love sooo much!! If I was Archie.. Id'e be seen my lawyer for 'slander' lawsuit's!! Sleeper... Everytime that everything is cool you just show up and try and start something... WHY??
------------------ "Smooth Fiero GT's RULE!!" SmoothFieroGT@Yahoo.com 4.9L V/8....Rebuild In Progress!!
Originally posted by West Coast Fiero: Cool deal - I want to see the SmoooothGT in real life. If it takes harassment from me to get you to finish that beast then I'm all over it
Did you ever get that whole front fascia incident resolved after that accident?
Eric, The front fascia is about 90% finished... Shhh... "Big Mouth"... side vent's for (eventual) front brake cooler's... top front vent's... and a 2 1/2" dropdown on the fascia itself.... Shh.... Hopefully picture's will be posted of the FINISHED SmoothGT before the paint though, in a month!! wheeew been how long??
I am still looking for the fascia bracket's... I can't find any!! I might just have to make some 'custom' braces or something.. anyway's... Thank's for the compliment's and motivation... lol
------------------ "Smooth Fiero GT's RULE!!" SmoothFieroGT@Yahoo.com 4.9L V/8....Rebuild In Progress!!
see how Archie barely said anyhting in this thread? He knows that arguing with you fools is worthless. He's not going to lower himself to the level you guys are at. So, West Coast Fiero, keep your products on the west coast, away from us knowledgeable mid and east coasters
------------------ Adam 1987 Blue GT 5-speed 3.8 swap starting soon IM AOL: GTFiero
side vent's for (eventual) front brake cooler's... top front vent's... and a 2 1/2" dropdown on the fascia itself.... Shh.... Hopefully picture's will be posted of the FINISHED SmoothGT before the paint though, in a month!! wheeew been how long?? 
I might just have to make some 'custom' braces or something.. anyway's... Thank's for the compliment's and motivation... lol 
Adam 
