If you don't have the integrity and honesty to keep private things private maybe you should block PMs. I personally would advise people not to send them to you since you obviously can't be trusted as evident in your actions.
Yes I do. Put then again I have intellectual honesty and unlike you I am not a raging hypocrite. Now why don't you go pick on some more newbs and show how tough you are. Maybe give then a history lesson on some thing totally irrelevant. And while you are at it you can defend some more hypocrisy or just be a hypocrite like you do so well.
And remember to keep it civil.
edit: I was going to PM you but you can't be trusted.
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Thanks for the laughs Phranc, but I've got to go outside now.
I'm glad that you find it funny when some one points out how disgraceful of a person you are. It shows much to you character a lot like how you can't be trusted with PMs and are a massive hypocrite.
PM may mean private message, but rest assured if someone sent me a pm of that nature, the entire forum would get to share in the experience, starting with cliff. we have two wrongs here, and sending the PM in the first place is far worse than posting it to the public forum IMO. if it came over the USPS or telephone, same thing, the authorities would know what's going on PDQ.
your actions have consequences, learn to deal with it.
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your actions have consequences, learn to deal with it.
And making what are private messages public have consequences too like showing people you can't be trusted and getting called out on it. Its a matter of integrity. If you show you don't have any by posting private messages you will have to deal with be called out on it.
Not sure what you mean about the USPS or the phone. There is no threat there. The authorities would brush it aside.
PM may mean private message, but rest assured if someone sent me a pm of that nature, the entire forum would get to share in the experience, starting with cliff. we have two wrongs here, and sending the PM in the first place is far worse than posting it to the public forum IMO. if it came over the USPS or telephone, same thing, the authorities would know what's going on PDQ.
your actions have consequences, learn to deal with it.
Does that mean you're telling on me? When someone with no authority over this forum whatsoever tells me to "take my pissy attitude" and leave the forum, that person (term used loosely) lowers the bar on what will be said. I at least had the decency to say what I had to say to him in Private Messaging. Oh and since you seem to not be able to tell the difference, I didn't send him an actual piece of poo. There's not poo all over his inbox now or anything.
When someone with no authority over this forum whatsoever tells me to "take my pissy attitude" and leave the forum, that person (term used loosely) lowers the bar on what will be said.
If you're going to refer to something I've stated, at least get it right.
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Originally posted by Patrick:
You can pack up your pissy attitude and return to your ATV forums anytime you like.
Considering what I was responding to, I don't believe my comment was out of line. It was hardly stated as a command. However, if you wish to take it as such, be my guest.
As usual with these kind of threads, it becomes a hodge-podge of "he said"/"you said"/"I said" and not worth anyone's time anymore, including my own. Unless something new and interesting comes up (which won't be from Phranc), I'm outta here.
Just couldn't resist taking that last dig before you go away could you? I hope you do stay away as it will just reinforce the the character you have made for your self by your actions. You are dishonest, lack integrity, untrustworthy and a hit and run attacker. That last "sucker punch" before you ran away hurts you more then it does me. But that's the type of person you are.
You forgot the bit about nuns, kittens and orphans.
I thought you were gone?
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Unless something new and interesting comes up (which won't be from Phranc), I'm outta here.
You just reinforced you a liar with no integrity. Since bill's sorry lying ass isn't around much and so is jazzmans lying ass maybe you will go with them?
Originally posted by Phranc: And making what are private messages public have consequences too like showing people you can't be trusted and getting called out on it. Its a matter of integrity. If you show you don't have any by posting private messages you will have to deal with be called out on it. Not sure what you mean about the USPS or the phone. There is no threat there. The authorities would brush it aside.
i'm not interested in your definition of integrity. have a nice day.
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Originally posted by Hulki U. My-BFF: Does that mean you're telling on me? When someone with no authority over this forum whatsoever tells me to "take my pissy attitude" and leave the forum, that person (term used loosely) lowers the bar on what will be said. I at least had the decency to say what I had to say to him in Private Messaging. Oh and since you seem to not be able to tell the difference, I didn't send him an actual piece of poo. There's not poo all over his inbox now or anything.
with rare exceptions, no more than 3 posts per thread, avoid personal insult, address the issue and not the poster. if it's all in good fun, none of these are an issue. if it gets hot, back away. no purpose is served by rudeness.
Seems as though there's more than one hypocrit in here.
Self-moderating forum my ass. The trash can is ripe with examples of why at least OT needs moderators or needs to ban political and similar threads. Obviously, people can't be expected to behave themselves on the internet, the proof is right here. Most of the flame wars we have here could be diffused or ended by moderators who check the appropriate sections daily. Just look at how out of control some of these threads get before Cliff has a chance to send them to the can. Changing the ratings system to make it easier to ban green members isn't a solution either. The whole banning system is silly because a) it takes too long except in extreme cases and b) going straight to a ban is like beating your kid because they spilled a glass of milk - the most dire consequence is rarely the best first choice.
Yep. What do you expect with a bunch of old men who dont know what a real car is anyway.
Hopefully more members will leave and this place gets shut down. Then those morons who dont even own a fiero who hang out on here daily realize how much time they've pissed away on a phucking forum.
As for the ratings, who cares. You can keep coming back..again, and again.
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------------------ The minority commits the majority of violent crime. Yet Im the bad guy for pointing that out. Truth is a B**** isnt it?
But I think what we've lost are two knowledgeable people that have been here on PFF for awhile, and have contributed lots of helpful advice. Out of those 10 people that join everyday, probably not one of them will be as helpful as either of these two.
If I decided to leave PFF and announce it to everyone, no one would really care considering I haven't done much for the boards besides take up space. Lol.
I've kind of thought about that too...
It is a shame when "veteran" Fiero owners decide to leave. The way it typically works is... you have a person who grows with the car, and they've worked on the car a lot... they've gotten a lot of advice from whatever web site caters to their car, and once they more or less become an "expert" they then in turn give back in the forums to help people just like they were.
I was on a board for Crown Victorias, Grand Marquis, and Mercury Marauders... http://www.CrownVic.net
I had been there for a few years, and have gotten to the point where I know enough about the cars that I was ready, so to speak, to start giving back. But I started to engage in conversations in these kinds of forums, and I think the moderator ended up confusing me with someone else. He kept thinking I was talking about religion (which I don't) and threatened me a few times, at which point I told the guy he was an idiot, has me confused with someone else and told him to go ahead and ban me if it'll make him feel better.
Haha... so, I'm gone from there.
I've been on here for a while, as well as the Fiero List. I've been working on Fieros now for 13 years...
13 years ago, I thought an oil change meant that you "changed the oil" by topping off the crank case.
13 years ago, I would call my parents if I had a flat tire because I didn't know how to change it.
This web site, along with Ed Parks, and the Fiero-List have basically turned me into a complete 180.
I realize that I can never be an "expert" so to speak, but I've gone from knowing absolutely NOTHING about cars, to having rebuilt my own engines, restored a few cars... I owe it all to sites like this.
So I'm going to try not to piss too many people off.
I've been on here LOOOONG enough, and I've taken apart and rebuilt enough Fieros that I consider myself "one of" the experts on here. I always try to help out whenever I can, and purposely look for the posts that have "0" responses.
The only thing that bums me out a little bit is that I'm not overly familiar with the 3800 and the 4.9 engines, so I basically can't help (if at all) when it comes to engine swaps, clearance questions, stuff like that.
If it were me, it might be better to ban people from the off-topic boards, and general chat...
I ENJOY responding to questions about Fieros...
I suppose you'll always get those people who get at eachother's throats when they argue about things like whether the H272 is better than the 2030 cam, or vice versa, or... what are some other ones? V8 swaps apparently get a lot of heat sometimes... I forget why though... notching frames or something... hahah...
Sorry, I don't know... I don't want to get any "-"s... I still keep the same motors... but if I ever get another Fiero, I'll definitely do a swap.
I rebuilt my 2.8 into a 3.1, and that's probabyl as far as I go.
You know, if you ARE constipated, and you need to take a crap... X-Lax Brownies are probably the better way to go??? I mean, might as well enjoy what you're eating if you're about to s**t yourself???
R.I.P. 88GT5.0KILLER
