i see he is still selling his overpriced low mount 3800 atl bracket on ebay...i guess i might not be overpriced if you actualy get it... i don't know i doubt i would attempt to do buisness with him....even with ebay protection...yea right.
Hey Loyde, you still owe me one of these...and I'm thinking since it did not sell on eBay and you told me I'd have mine in July, maybe I can have this one??? Email me before shipping please, I'm out of town at the moment.
No offense man, but good luck. The fact that you posted on this thread is probably reason enough in his mind to not honor your agreement on the sale.
If he's as talented as people have claimed, and he can do the work he claims, you would think he could make a VERY comfortable living with just this line of work. I would have gladly paid him to do my swap if it hadn't have been for the way he had ripped other people off. Oh well, I guess people sabotage themselves every day.
Ok its not an airstreem. As for the pic being posted. Be careful guys. I dont mean to side with loyed but this is boarderline stalking, Even though his shop is is home address so i geuss it is a public address.
Ok its not an airstreem. As for the pic being posted. Be careful guys. I dont mean to side with loyed but this is boarderline stalking, Even though his shop is is home address so i geuss it is a public address.
It isn't stalking. All of this information is public. This is informing the community.
I do not condone any of Loydes actions, and I think Will is way past due with some sort of legal action. Taking the cash and not completing on time is criminal, so that makes Loyde a crimnal in my book. With that said...
I agree that some of the behavior and posts in this thread borders on stalking. The images from google can be up to a year or more older, so looking at a travel trailer in his driveway should not lead anyone to any conclusion. How do you know it is his, so the statment that Will had paid for his travel trailer might not be accurate. I believe this tread is needed to show who's who in the Fiero vendor community, but some of the comments are not needed and instigators (if the shoe fits) should take a step back and let those with revelant info post what they know. Others should leave assumptions out.
just my .02 cents.
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I guess ripping people off for 8 years gets you a pretty nice house... I am fairly sure I have built more fieros per years "in business" than he has and I cant afford even a starter home. My bad habbits include working a full time job, and being frugal, while his involve traveling for long periods of time too...
I do not condone any of Loydes actions, and I think Will is way past due with some sort of legal action. Taking the cash and not completing on time is criminal, so that makes Loyde a crimnal in my book. With that said...
I agree that some of the behavior and posts in this thread borders on stalking. The images from google can be up to a year or more older, so looking at a travel trailer in his driveway should not lead anyone to any conclusion. How do you know it is his, so the statment that Will had paid for his travel trailer might not be accurate. I believe this tread is needed to show who's who in the Fiero vendor community, but some of the comments are not needed and instigators (if the shoe fits) should take a step back and let those with revelant info post what they know. Others should leave assumptions out.
just my .02 cents.
An old picture of his house posted in this thread is PLENTY enough accurate to make judgments on, as the basis of the thread is the crookedness over a 5 year period. The pictures also have the ability to show a large period of time, as some are old, some are not.
How is this stalking anyway? Loyde threatened to tell my school and my parents years ago when I critiqued his garbage business practices and products. He made sure that he sent over my parents addresses, and a friends address and his parents address. So his was a case of stalking, plus threats, yet posting google pictures of his PLACE OF BUSINESS is stalking?
[B]Originally posted by DH..... Loyde threatened to tell my school and my parents years ago when I critiqued his garbage business practices and products. He made sure that he sent over my parents addresses, and a friends address and his parents address.
You have got to be joking.......
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WOW. This is some strong stuff! If it were my business I would be very concerned that it would ruin any chance for future business.
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Not specifically, even years before that I was approached by loyde directly with threats.
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Scott,
You have 2 choices here… you either go to PFF and remove you cheap remarks about me in the fuel pump thread, and that thread ‘where has fierox been” and 2-3 others, or I am calling you out big time on PFF and exposing you as the fraud you are. I know who ******* is now, and see he is the one that posts with your ID on PFF also.
You post how you have installed intercooled setups on 3800s ? hahaha… I am sure you would have been happy to take many pictures of you actually doing something that resulted in such positive results, yet you have none..
Get off my case …
BTW, all the below threads on ******** I have saved on my computer already.. such a circle of friends you have there. All that cursing and bad mouthing on the internet. If you get a job interview in the future, I can tell you that investigations by ‘big’ companies are smart enough to google.com peoples names these days. Now if you are John Smith, that would be fine, but *****is not that a common name
Loyde
********, Scott
Age:18-24
**71 ****** Rd
***********, MI 48473-9156
(810) ***-6***
You know what Scott ******** ( AKA > AOL - SC10Wolf : DarkHorizon : GolferScott : and many other multi personalities on the net )
I bored and tired of your attitude to me. Let me help the Fiero community know this individual as he really is. What Scott ********8 is > young kid sitting behind a computer thinking he is educating himself so he can make himself look so smart to other people on the internet. He claims in emails to me that it is not a personal attack on me, and he would never try to disrupt a business that specialized in 3800 installations.
He threatened a lot of things on there, as well as sent me my parents / schools contact information in effect to say that he was going to contact them.
Sad part of this whole story is the fact that there was a time in 2008 where loyde and I worked on a few things together... He had a bunch of useful resources that WE could have taken advantage of, but his greed and arrogance got in the way.
A few people PM'd me that this thread required my attention. I admit it has been awhile since I last looked in here and I must say this has now gone far enough - perhaps even a bit too far.
It's my opinion that as soon as things are being posted that no longer serve the purpose of this thread and are only meant to either add fuel to the fire, or to serve as some kind of scare tactic towards one of the participants, the thread lost its right of existence. So I'm moving this to the Trash Can and it will not be moved back. I'll leave it open in TTC for now, but I will close it as soon as I deem necessary.
Wow, the last thing this thread need was to go in the trash can. Loyde must have slipped cliff a 50 to trash this so he can take advantage of more people. This is only hurting the Fiero Community. Shame on you!
Wow, the last thing this thread need was to go in the trash can. Loyde must have slipped cliff a 50 to trash this so he can take advantage of more people. This is only hurting the Fiero Community. Shame on you!
You must be young and certainly dumb to talk that way.Even a dog won't bite the hand that feeds him.To trash Cliff's integrity like that is just plain stupid.
Sorry Will. I really hoped the thread would have served to help you get your car back.
I know It at least saved me from a big headache. Loyds name came up when I was looking for someone to puchase a harness from along with the pcm reprogram.
I did a search for his business and found this thread and more just like it.
It sure saved me a headache....but I know that doesnt mean much to someone that has lost a custom car and $11.5k.
Wow, the last thing this thread need was to go in the trash can. Loyde must have slipped cliff a 50 to trash this so he can take advantage of more people. This is only hurting the Fiero Community. Shame on you!
Easy killer, I hope you don't really think something like that. My guess was probably the pictures of someone's property being put up on a message board was what made this end up in The Trash Can. Its sad, because this should have been an amazing build thread like Madcurl's Arch Rival or The Miura Project Begins.