2.5, Referencing the Newsweek Article attacking the Constitution. ! Attacking the Constitution, to render the people's rights unenforceable, the nation's borders unprotected, the laws derelict, abandoned, decrepit. The slow motion invasion, penetrating deeply into the security organs, subservient to offshore commanders, as paid stools. Pandering sycophants posturing to get in line to 'massage' the leader's proclivities, for the hope of a flowing large payoff. An old profession, second oldest, essentially identical tasks, shaking until a resultant flow, of cash, in the first.
! ' Responsibility is a unique concept; it can only reside and inhere within a single individual. You may delegate it but it is still with you. You may share it with others but your portion is not diminished. You may disclaim it but you cannot divest yourself of it. Even if you do not recognize it or admit its presence, you cannot escape it. If the responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. ' - Admiral H. G. Rickover ! ' No man who refuses to bear arms can give sound reason why he should be allowed to live in a free country ' - Teddy Roosevelt ! ' If you don't believe in conspiracies, you've never read a history book. ' - G. Edward Griffin. ! ' Turns out far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons. Doesn't seem right. ' - Tyrion Lannister !
Originally posted by Valkrie9: ' No man who refuses to bear arms can give sound reason why he should be allowed to live in a free country ' - Teddy Roosevelt
' If you don't believe in conspiracies, you've never read a history book. ' - G. Edward Griffin.
' Turns out far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons. Doesn't seem right. ' - Tyrion Lannister
I dig the quotes. You know it seems a lot of what is being pushed as of late policy wise is aimed at defeating individual responsibility. Which only makes sense, because if you eventually can't be responsible for yourself, what are you? Owned.
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 625 individuals], (2.0 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (5.6 %) out of the 625 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 4 individuals, (0.6 %) out of the 625 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 25 individuals, (4.0 %) out of the 625 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.
As of today only 25 individuals, (<0.08 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.
As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.
As of today 6 Capitol police officers are facing disciplinary action for their actions related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
*NOTE* The "Breaking News" heretofore has been based on the January 6, 2021 rally crowd size as >30,000 and as such the 30,000 number has been used to calculate several of the percentage figures given. That crowd size number was derived, not from any actual accounting or official estimate, but simply from the crowd size permit issued by the National Park Service the days before the event and that permit was not issued specifically for the Trump rally. It has become apparent that the crowd size was significantly larger than that 30,000 permit, accordingly this issue of the "Breaking News" will be edited at a later date to reflect a more realistic crowd size, (larger), and the resultant percentages. All future issues of the "Breaking News" will reflect that number.
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A key adviser to Donald Trump’s legal team in their post-election quest to unearth evidence of [elections] fraud has delivered a trove of documents to Jan. 6 investigators describing those efforts.
Bernard Kerik, the former New York City Police commissioner and ally of Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, also provided a “privilege log” describing materials he declined to provide to the committee.
One of the documents referenced in Kerik's so-called "privilege log" is described as "DRAFT LETTER FROM POTUS TO SEIZE EVIDENCE IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY FOR THE 2020 ELECTIONS."
Another, at least as intriguing: "COMPLIATION OF RANTS."
In this on-air segment from Monday (January 3, 2022), Nicholas Wu, a congressional reporter for Politico, talks about documents provided by former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik to the House Select Committee that is charged with investigating the events of January 6.
The discussion starts with a compliaton of rants about these withheld documents, starting with the one described in Kerik's privilege log as "COMPLIATION OF RANTS."
Peter Navarro was nominally one of President Trump's West Wing or salaried White House advisors on economic and trade issues; yet his interests went far beyond the realm of commerce.
"Ex-Trump aide Peter Navarro says 100 House members were 'ready' to carry out election coup"
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Coup plot called "a well thought-out plan based on sound, constitutional law and existing legislative precedent"
So you have now resorted to trying to deceive people into watching your MSLSD propaganda by not mentioning the cross-dressed propagandist in your links.
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"COMPLIATION OF RANTS" on YouTube
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Staffers in Trump's admin were preparing a coup against him. Wasn't it Rod Rosen? Even after he agreed to move the embassy to Jerusalem, they were gunning for him. He'll never learn.
Senator Jeff "Malarkey" Merkley told us a grand tale of daring-do and "heroic" presence of mind in the face of danger:
His tale was told and retold by countless others and we were even shown "actual photos" of the "intrepid heroes" in action:
There's only one small problem with this great story.......
The brave and stalwart young "Senate staffers" that we were breathlessly told about and shown in photographs were actually THESE two:
You can see one of them on the right immediately behind the two women in black here:
All of those people are taking part in the ceremonial procession carrying the electoral ballot boxes TO the House of Representatives chamber FROM the Senate chamber.
The photographer of these images, Getty contributor Caroline Brehman, identifies them as having been taken by her at 12:57PM on January 6, 2021
The electoral ballot boxes were delivered into the House chamber at approximately 1:00PM and those staffers returned to the Senate chamber
OVER 1 HOUR BEFORE RIOTERS BROKE INTO THE CAPITOL BUILDING
The House chamber was never breached during the riot. The names of any claimed Senate staffers have never been released and no photographs or corroborating evidence of this tale appear to exist anywhere.
Political fairy tales.....Leftists gotta Leftist
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Sometimes--at least it's happened before--good company joins this thread. Someone from Arizona or California, where the hour has not yet turned midnight.
I'm not expecting it.
Fox News commentator Sean Hannity has seldom (if ever) been talked about in positive terms by any of the cadre of MSNBC program anchors.
But tonight--Tuesday, January 4, 2022--well, it's online to see and hear: YouTube link removed, video was "unposted"
This isn't on the MSNBC YouTube channel. I hope it stays up. The sound quality is OK--very listenable--but not 100 percent. It's like a "bootleg" recording.
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Members of the January 6th commission claimed to have “credible evidence” proving that Kerik was at the Willard Hotel in Washington on January 5th. In fact, no such evidence exists, further underlining the farcical nature of the commission and its fishing exercise against leading right-wing figures."
"Jan. 5th when Kerik is alleged to be at the Willard Hotel near the White House, toll records show he was crossing the George Washington Bridge into Manhattan twice: once at 5:39am and again at 2:24pm.
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But tonight--Tuesday, January 4, 2022--well, it's online to see and hear:
This isn't on the MSNBC YouTube channel. I hope it stays up. The sound quality is OK--very listenable--but not 100 percent. It's like a "bootleg" recording.
Oh great.....
You're back to STOP THE GODDAMN HAMMERING!!Lunatic Leftist Larry
Yesterday (Tuesday, January 4, 2022) MSNBC anchor Lawrence O'Donnell seemed not that far from lavishing praise on one of the most familiar faces of Fox News, Fox News commentator Sean Hannity. O'Donnell said (in so many words) that of all the people who were conversing with Trump and offering advice to Trump in the wake of the 2020 national elections cycle--Trump's confidantes as it were--Hannity was the smartest. It was striking, as O'Donnell and other MSNBC anchors and guests had not had a kind word to say about Sean Hannity before, that I can remember.
As a newsworthy development in the Jan. 6 saga, it was Pennock's post-worthy, but I cannot post it, because that MSNBC video segment has not been posted on YouTube or on MSNBC "dot" com. Nor do I have a transcript, although that will likely go online in another day or two. This is the next best alternative:
So if you are reading along here there's good reverse scrolling or scrolling backwards to be had. On this same and currently last page (page 25) of this long-running Pennock's topic reside previous and recent posts by yours truly "rinselberg" featuring "COMPLIATION OF RANTS", "GREEN BAY SWEEP" and now "SEAN HANNITY."
Don't be caught with that blank stare or deer in the headlights look on your face when these catchwords and phrases are spoken in your presence at that cocktail party or other social event in your near future. Or maybe an online social event, considering the impact of the Omicron variant.
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Nobody with any mature, rational, thinking really cares about what opinions or suggestions a cable TV talking head sent via text or social media to a politician.
Which explains and illustrates why the Pennocks Purveyor Of Perjury is so fascinated by it and was compelled to post about it TWICE in this thread.
It is also clearly indicative of how shallow, sad and inconsequential his life is......even more sad, shallow and inconsequential than his favorite TV propaganda source which he is obviously slavishly devoted to.
It is also indicative of what a complete sh!t-show and clown act the so called "January 6 Comission" / political revenge gang is.
Leftists gotta Leftist
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"The film shows a well-known Black Lives Matter activist instigating and encouraging vandalism and violence at the double doors where Ashli Babbitt was shot just seconds later. Not long after, he’s seen in the Capitol rotunda, bragging about how he got the protesters to trash the door. His girlfriend replies, “You were right. We did it!”
It also shows an investigative journalist who tracked left-wing groups in online Zoom chats, discussing how to foment violence, smash windows, and breach the Capitol on Jan. 6. Some of the participants were federal employees."
"The truth always eventually comes out and it is NEVER what the Leftist media originally told you".....randye
Two days before the one-year anniversary of the MAGA insurrection at the Capitol, former Trump aide Peter Navarro admitted to the real Jan. 6 plot to overturn the election results—the "Green Bay Sweep"—when Navarro appeared on MSNBC's The Beat with Ari Melber. That remarkable interview has already made headlines around the globe, and even Trump ally Steve Bannon has weighed in, saying he and Navarro "are unreasonable" men. Ari Melber, a former trial lawyer himself, discusses the significance of Navarro's admission with former SDNY prosecutor John Flannery.
Former SDNY (federal) prosecutor John Flannery has a penchant for colorful and often U.S. flag-themed bowties. (He was sporting one of his more conventional looking bowties in this rinselberg file photo.)
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"Things broke down early after former federal prosecutor John Flannery accused Harvard Law School’s Alan Dershowitz of supporting the ban because he thought it would be good for Israel."
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YUP, It's a never ending circle jerk of lunatics, perverts, propagandists and Leftist shills with you.
Has it ever ONCE occurred to you that the stupid things that you think and believe are due to the stupid sources and people that you get your "news" and propaganda from?
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He's the mahoosive, morbidly obese, "tag along" clown / thug that followed infamous cry-baby and new CNN "contributor" Michael Fanone all over the halls of Congress as they harassed Republican members of Congress for months.
"A report from The New York Times said some officers had grown weary of Capitol Police Sgt. Harry Dunn's prominent role as an advocate for the Capitol Police. They complained that by talking about the racism he endured on that day, he made it "all about race."
Dunn, the report said, grew increasingly despondent after the attack, choosing to eat lunch alone in his car."
Obviously a LOT of lunch....
....and we can be fairly sure that those "solo lunches" were actually due to none of his fellow officers wanting to be anywhere around the racist complaining lard-ass.
It seems now that his conniving comrade has moved on to more lucrative, and friendlier, ground for himself at a Leftist propaganda outlet, Mahoosive Racist Harry is now trying to carve out his own future, auditioning for a job at a Leftist TV propaganda mill by following in the footsteps of his buddy Fanone, and crapping all over his fellow officers while simultaneously engaging in his own pathetic crying whine-fest.
Perhaps MSLSD or CNN will have a generous lunch program for Mahoosive Racist Harry.
Leftist gotta Leftist
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As of today, STILLNOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, STILLNOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, STILLNOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, STILLNOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, STILLNOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, STILLNOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
Their "insurrection" narrative has continually and systematically fallen apart over the past year but Leftists still desperately cling to it as stupidly and tenaciously as they still do to their "Russia Collusion" fantasy.
Leftists gotta Leftist
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I approve your lessening your abuse of this forum resources with a shorter post this time
but if you would stop the repeated lies it could be much shorter like one line our revolt failed and we do not admit we tried and failed
where is your personal responsibility for the putsch that you support
Opposing opinion......
Perhaps the fraudulent election was allowed to stand due to the insurgents in the protest crowd causing enough disruption to the legal process of challenging electoral college votes. Perhaps the insurgents were placed there intentionally by folks who were worried that the legal process of challenging elector votes was successful.
At this juncture, we don't know, due to the politicized atmosphere in the media and the investigating committee.
It stinks of rot because it is rotten. The USA doesn't have election integrity. It doesn't have financial integrity. It doesn't have cultural moral integrity. It doesn't have judicial integrity.
And STILL it's not enough for the left. They want more decadence.
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Originally posted by 2.5: If you would point out the lies you claim and against each, it may benefit readers, rather than just claiming there are lies.
He and blackrams have that common trait. They'd rather just insinuate so that they can't be proven wrong on an actual issue.
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And there you go with the personal attacks again.....
Do you feel that personal attacks help you convey your opinion of the world around you? Does it make you feel superior to fellow conversationalists? Are you trying to sell you ideas, or just vent your internal rage?
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Perhaps the fraudulent election was allowed to stand due to the insurgents in the protest crowd causing enough disruption to the legal process of challenging electoral college votes. Perhaps the insurgents were placed there intentionally by folks who were worried that the legal process of challenging elector votes was successful.
At this juncture, we don't know, due to the politicized atmosphere in the media and the investigating committee.
The whole thing reeks of dead fish.
which ''fraudulent election was allowed to stand '' are you on about gore v bush they won by 500k nation wide lost 4 v 5 in court or 2016 she won by 3 million but lost by placement of the votes not numbers or 2020 where your side just strait up FAILED TO WIN BY 7 MILLION ?
YES IT STINKS ALL 3 TIMES
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And there you go with the personal attacks again.....
Do you feel that personal attacks help you convey your opinion of the world around you? Does it make you feel superior to fellow conversationalists? Are you trying to sell you ideas, or just vent your internal rage? *Edited for spelling, not content.*
You are the pot and the kettle for making personal attacks with no actual issue that you disagree with. I challenged you to elevate your approa and you did change your approach, thankfully.
I've had success with maryjane's strawman personal character assassination attempts. Willie has made improvements, but cvxjet hasn't.
So now that I'm working to elevate blackrams, ray b and have worked with 2.5 on his approach, you're triggered.
It's poignant that you're triggered for me EXPOSING HYPOCRISY of how they make challenging statements of credibility while not actually taking a position. In fact they commonly haven't even selected an issue to debate when they square off on someone here. Three of them will affix their own argument to someone so they can create a counter argument, and pretend they have credibility.
You aren't involved but must protest for some reason. Don't worry. It's a learning process.
If you would point out the lies you claim and evidence against each, it may benefit readers, rather than just claiming there are lies.
THE REPEATED CLAIMS OF NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ... WHILE FAILING TO NOTE ''YET'' and the fact that all of the charged category's could and should be so charged
it really just shows clearly white older guys are NOT prostituted to the fullest extent of the laws in real life
Stephanie Grisham told CNN on Thursday that [President Trump] was so excited by the [January 6 riot at the Capitol Building] that he was rewinding his TV and watching it again.
The only thing that you challenge is other people's belief that you have something salient to add to a conversation.
If people will actually take an issue and ask instead of what you used to do and just insult them personally, there might be a learning opportunity.
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So now it's your responsibility to train other members on this Forum how to speak nicely to each other?
Your generousity and brilliance truly have no bounds.....
It's an easy way to win a debate against someone who really isn't taking a position.
How does anyone know what they believe if they don't have to defend a position?
I want to learn where I'm wrong, because many if my positions aren't politically correct which makes me a target of both political parties due to their abject corruption in personal opinions.
Originally posted by ray b: it really just shows clearly white older guys are NOT prostituted to the fullest extent of the laws in real life
No group is more discriminated against than White males. Blacks, Mestizos, Asians, Indians live a higher standard of living and enjoy more preferential treatment as groups in American than in any other country.
Originally posted by sourmash: I've had success with maryjane's strawman personal character assassination attempts.
Actually, for the most part, I simply ignore you, but I find it ironic that you accuse me (and others of personal attacks) after falsely claiming I and another member (theBDub) were one and the same person.
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I find it ironic that you accuse me (and others of personal attacks) after falsely claiming I and another member (theBDub) were one and the same person.
Understandable accusation for sourmash or anyone else to make. What is it, only about a 40 year difference in age between you and Brennan?
Actually, for the most part, I simply ignore you, but I find it ironic that you accuse me (and others of personal attacks) after falsely claiming I and another member (theBDub) were one and the same person.
Oh, poor you. Is that an attack? Is that the irony I'm supposed to see?
There are reasons I don't believe some of the things you pose here. It was a choice you made. I'm just an observer.
Of the three, the last may have been the closest the US has come to being overthrown.
And the terrorists, traitors, insurrectionists, seditionists need to be treated as such.
And their leaders need to see time behind bars. I hear Gitmo has some vacancies.
You poor dimwits are so predictable.
I really appreciate it when you clueless Leftist Lunatics constantly prove my points for me.
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Their "insurrection" narrative has continually and systematically fallen apart over the past year but Leftists still desperately cling to it as stupidly and tenaciously as they still do to their "Russia Collusion" fantasy.
Leftists gotta Leftist
Go ahead, tell everyone how you STILL believe in the "Russia Collusion" fairy tale too.
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