There are no more political discussions here. It has deteriorated to a handful of guys misrepresenting or misunderstanding the facts, or downright lying, then berating or insulting the other participants for doing the exact same thing.
Nobody is willing to learn, nobody is winning.
Everyone thinks he has something to prove. Nobody cares. It is just boring.
I have to agree. If someone disagrees they don't even counter. They wait til some time has passed and then start up as if the counter argument was never made. It does seem a waste of time to try and make points to folks who intentionally don't listen. Since I know their game, and know its objective, I won't change due to it. I'll continue being myself anyway.
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Originally posted by 2.5: Rinselberg, isnt this what you did too posting a making fun post of folks watching too much of some kind of news. Isnt it funny though that the false news was the mainstream diatribe that much of the public ate up, and is seemingly addicted to being spoon fed.
It wasn't just a "making fun" post. I posted a news report about--well, here:
"Lawyer Says Capitol Defendant Had ‘Foxmania’ From Watching Too Much Fox News"
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For roughly six months after he was laid off, Anthony Antonio was in a home where Fox News played constantly, his attorney told a court.
I don't expect to change the minds of cvxjet or Rinse, but maybe someone reading will think about how their beliefs/ideas/propaganda are/is or will be a bad thing for their life and freedoms.
There are also people who won't engage except when it's a personal critique that has no other message. Those responses tell me the person was triggered, but he doesn't want to reveal his beliefs due to possible backlash or his beliefs were destroyed in the triggering message.
I'm aware in your opinion making fun was only part of it. But it is other point breaking that as I said, the false news was the mainstream diatribe that much of the public ate up, and is seemingly addicted to being spoon fed.
Originally posted by sourmash: I don't expect to change the minds of cvxjet or Rinse, but maybe someone reading will think about how their beliefs/ideas/propaganda are/is or will be a bad thing for their life and freedoms.
In the alter universe, if someone doesn't SHOUT down their ideas, someone might possibly actually believe them.
I don't expect to change the minds of cvxjet or Rinse, but maybe someone reading will think about how their beliefs/ideas/propaganda are/is or will be a bad thing for their life and freedoms.
There are also people who won't engage except when it's a personal critique that has no other message. Those responses tell me the person was triggered, but he doesn't want to reveal his beliefs due to possible backlash or his beliefs were destroyed in the triggering message.
The far-right Proud Boys designated a small group of members to plan and carry out their activities at the Capitol on Jan. 6, according to newly filed court documents that provide additional information about the group's inner workings.
But investigators have yet to establish who formulated the plan to storm the Capitol grounds and enter the building.
In late December, prosecutors said, Proud Boys Chairman Enrique Tarrio announced the creation of a special chapter within the organization, calling it the Ministry of Self Defense. Its members included Tarrio and four men since charged with conspiracy in the Capitol siege — Ethan Nordean of Washington state, Joseph Biggs of Florida, Zachary Rehl of Pennsylvania, and Charles Donohoe of North Carolina.
The Ministry of Self-Defense subgroup "was not to have any interaction with other Proud Boys" coming to Washington on Jan. 6, prosecutors said.
The FBI previously said Biggs messaged, "We have a plan," the night before the riot, but court documents have not said what that plan was.
Biggs was accused of leading Proud Boys members on Jan. 6 from the Washington Monument to the Capitol, where one of their followers was accused of breaking a window, allowing hundreds more people to stream in. . . .
Did you mean that the feds were engaging in conspiracy by having their historical informant to do something newsworthy? They arrested and released him the day before the protest, which is a convenient way to issue final directives, no?
Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio has a history of being an informant in criminal investigations
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Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio used to be a federal and local police informant, Reuters reported. Tarrio's cooperation assisted in the prosecution of more than a dozen defendants. He denied this report, but it was confirmed in a court transcript obtained by Reuters.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
"Conspiracy" The far-right Proud Boys designated a small group of members to plan and carry out their activities at the Capitol on Jan. 6, according to newly filed court documents that provide additional information about the group's inner workings.
But investigators have yet to establish who formulated the plan to storm the Capitol grounds and enter the building.
In late December, prosecutors said, Proud Boys Chairman Enrique Tarrio announced the creation of a special chapter within the organization, calling it the Ministry of Self Defense. Its members included Tarrio and four men since charged with conspiracy in the Capitol siege — Ethan Nordean of Washington state, Joseph Biggs of Florida, Zachary Rehl of Pennsylvania, and Charles Donohoe of North Carolina.
The Ministry of Self-Defense subgroup "was not to have any interaction with other Proud Boys" coming to Washington on Jan. 6, prosecutors said.
The FBI previously said Biggs messaged, "We have a plan," the night before the riot, but court documents have not said what that plan was.
Biggs was accused of leading Proud Boys members on Jan. 6 from the Washington Monument to the Capitol, where one of their followers was accused of breaking a window, allowing hundreds more people to stream in. . . .[/SIZE]
Who has Sandy Cortez accused of trying to kill her this week? The members of Jihad Squad aren't so stable. When your congressional resume says, "former bartender", what can we expect?
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Who has Sandy Cortez accused of trying to kill her this week? The members of Jihad Squad aren't so stable. When your congressional resume says, "former nartender", what can we expect?
It’s ok, she auditioned for the role. She just needs a better script.
I'm curious (no, not really) where cvxjet gets his information that makes him believe the horse hockey that he spews about conservatism and conservatives.
“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all [F-bomb] short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re [F-bomb] retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”
“But they’re our brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers — they’re part of our country. These aren’t bad people, they don’t have prior criminal history. [F-bomb], they were subjected to four-plus years of goddamn propaganda the likes of which the world has not seen since [F-bomb] Hitler.”
Who talks like that?
That's Albert Watkins, the lawyer defending “QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley against federal charges stemming from Chansley's highly visible role on January 6 outside and then inside the U.S. Capitol Building.
But Watkins wasn't talking in court or in a court filing. He was talking to TPM (Talking Points Memo) reporter Matt Shuham for an article that's just been published.
The article also reprises the recently published but already famous Slice-O'-Life style, reality-based vignette about January 6 defendant Anthony Antonio, a "Foxitis" victim.
But he's right. We haven't seen propaganda like this since Hitler was defeated and dead.
I was in a pawn shop yesterday and realized I was the only White person out of 6. The other customer was sitting on the counter trying to chat up 2 female workers. I kept hearing one work repeated. M-effer.
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Hmmmmmm....Andy seems to have a very short memory......
The ability of you guys to shuck reality and believe anything Faux and Oanny tell you is amazing...Remember Jade Helm? ("No I don't reNember that- what you talkin' 'bout?")
The ability of you guys to shuck reality and believe anything Faux and Oanny tell you is amazing...
The reality that isn't true? Try refuting the things ignored throughout this thread, instead of just claiming empty claims against the people posting in the thread.
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As of today, still NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON has been charged with Insurrection as a result of the events of January 6, 2021
NOBODY, 誰も, NIEMAND, NADIE, INGEN
You are obviously free to believe any whackadoodle crap you want to,......and your posts confirm that you indeed do.
You see, *insurrection* is a FEDERAL crime and accordingly the USDOJ must charge someone with that crime.
Out of the 419+ people arrested and charged as a result of January 6, 2020 the government has not charged ANYONE with insurrection and we can be quite certain that if the Leftist controlled DOJ of Dementia Joe Biden could...they would.
However, you are obviously free to believe any whackadoodle crap you want to....
The other REALITY is that you are not a conservative.
You can't even fake being a conservative convincingly because your "Leftist accent" is so strong, (i.e. your compulsion to post stuff like you just did and start it out by referring to real conservatives as "you guys" ).
That "insurrection" narrative sure is important to you.
You can't hear your own "accent" and you're not fooling anyone but yourself.
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Hmmmmmm....Andy seems to have a very short memory......
The ability of you guys to shuck reality and believe anything Faux and Oanny tell you is amazing...Remember Jade Helm? ("No I don't reNember that- what you talkin' 'bout?")
Funny you are.
"Lawmakers blast Biden administration sanctions waiver for Kremlin-backed Russian pipeline to Germany"
Yes-yes...I know the EVIL communist/Mussy Hyper Liberal >>Leftists<< are taking over the world, mainly by stealing the election from Saint Donnie, who is the >>>>GREATEST MAN WHO EVER LIVED!!!!! A REAL HERO OF THE FATHERLAND!!!!!!<<<<<
Russia could drop a bomb on our country and you guys would all run to your TV sets and watch as Faux/Russia told you it was evil commie chinese helped by Obama/Hilary/Biden.....If Faux told you to burn your flags and constitutions you would do it while cheering.
Can one of you post a picture of the "Leftist laser" that those evil bideners pointed at all of the conservative judges that told Trump to go suck an egg? Just one picture of the magic raygun.....
Randy.....You practice that Yellow-shirt stuff so well......Anyone who doesn't say "You're right! Trump is a great man and the only real conservative in this country!!!!" is immediately labeled a leftist. MUST MARCH IN LOCK STEP!!!!
I am a real conservative because I recognize that America was built on people having different ideas and opinions- You would love to have everyone Sieg-heiling to your Anti-American and Anti-Constitutional little opinions.
You are exactly like the little fools I met in school who started crying if everyone didn't see how "Perfrect" they were.
Also, YOU are working WITH the leftist Antfa fools to destroy this country...Either you are brain-washed by Putin (Your hero) or you actually are a traitor and KNOWINGLY selling out this country.
You've made that more than obvious while continually beclowning yourself.
You should stop that if you have even a shred of self-respect but I suspect that you can't because, like your "accent", you don't even know you're doing it.
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